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	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lady Gaga&#8217;s &#8220;Telephone&#8221; by Morgan Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the video (once Beyonce was introduced) seemed to be an attempt to imitate Quentin Tarantino (i.e. dialogue style, "Pussy Wagon").  Gaga should know better than to try to imitate others... it rarely works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the video (once Beyonce was introduced) seemed to be an attempt to imitate Quentin Tarantino (i.e. dialogue style, &#8220;Pussy Wagon&#8221;).  Gaga should know better than to try to imitate others&#8230; it rarely works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avatar: Visual Effects Porn by Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know...it's exactly the same as Pocahontas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230;it&#8217;s exactly the same as Pocahontas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by But really, ISN&#8217;T pop a genre? &#124; KEVIN WONG</title>
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		<dc:creator>But really, ISN&#8217;T pop a genre? &#124; KEVIN WONG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lil Wayne: Locked Up by phantastikpebbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>phantastikpebbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>his sentence was postponed till March 2nd (my birthday)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>his sentence was postponed till March 2nd (my birthday)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oh, Elaine Stritch. by Betty White on SNL : All That Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty White on SNL : All That Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] White has always held a special place in my heart. As a juxtaposition to Elaine Stritch, another matriarch of the stage and screen that i love, White is a sweet, hilarious bundle of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] White has always held a special place in my heart. As a juxtaposition to Elaine Stritch, another matriarch of the stage and screen that i love, White is a sweet, hilarious bundle of [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by Aaron</title>
		<link>http://theithacan.org/blogs/allthatjazz/2010/01/30/whatever-happened-to-pop-music/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said it's in any trouble. It's just not in a great place, so of course something happened to it. Things happen to genres all the time. They go through trends. So, my point is that whatever this "era" or trend might be called now, it's not a great one—compared to others. And now, more than ever, it's stemming mainly off one artist.

I'd just like to hear some better music, is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said it&#8217;s in any trouble. It&#8217;s just not in a great place, so of course something happened to it. Things happen to genres all the time. They go through trends. So, my point is that whatever this &#8220;era&#8221; or trend might be called now, it&#8217;s not a great one—compared to others. And now, more than ever, it&#8217;s stemming mainly off one artist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to hear some better music, is all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, you can call pop what you want, but that's what it's been for most of its history - an extension of business, and that's why it often follows easily recognizable trends. Rarely has pop music ventured into its own sub-genre independent of corporate control and culture. 

Referring to Lady Gaga specifically, I'm not necessarily saying artists are imitating her and "sacrificing" their own originality. I'm just saying pop music is a genre specifically designed to lack originality, for the most part.

Plus, it's certainly fine if you think Lady Gaga's music is less than interesting or amazing, but that doesn't mean she isn't original. It just means you don't like it.

It also doesn't mean that she is, as mentioned, eroding any particular artist's originality or preventing their full potential form reaching its maximum capacity by spearheading a new style.

Lady Gaga isn't doing anything different than, say, Madonna. Or Briteny. Or the Backstreet Boys. Pop is a genre designed to mimic what's popular. So, yes, Beyonce is going to briefly spend some time working with Lady Gaga in order to keep up with needs of a hyper-consuming economy. 

In my opinion and in all honesty, none of this means the genre is in trouble, or that anything "happened" to it. It's been the same genre since its development twenty years ago. We're just in the Gaga Era of Pop History. There will be plenty of other eras, and there will be plenty of other imitators, there to sell and be sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, you can call pop what you want, but that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s been for most of its history - an extension of business, and that&#8217;s why it often follows easily recognizable trends. Rarely has pop music ventured into its own sub-genre independent of corporate control and culture. </p>
<p>Referring to Lady Gaga specifically, I&#8217;m not necessarily saying artists are imitating her and &#8220;sacrificing&#8221; their own originality. I&#8217;m just saying pop music is a genre specifically designed to lack originality, for the most part.</p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s certainly fine if you think Lady Gaga&#8217;s music is less than interesting or amazing, but that doesn&#8217;t mean she isn&#8217;t original. It just means you don&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>It also doesn&#8217;t mean that she is, as mentioned, eroding any particular artist&#8217;s originality or preventing their full potential form reaching its maximum capacity by spearheading a new style.</p>
<p>Lady Gaga isn&#8217;t doing anything different than, say, Madonna. Or Briteny. Or the Backstreet Boys. Pop is a genre designed to mimic what&#8217;s popular. So, yes, Beyonce is going to briefly spend some time working with Lady Gaga in order to keep up with needs of a hyper-consuming economy. </p>
<p>In my opinion and in all honesty, none of this means the genre is in trouble, or that anything &#8220;happened&#8221; to it. It&#8217;s been the same genre since its development twenty years ago. We&#8217;re just in the Gaga Era of Pop History. There will be plenty of other eras, and there will be plenty of other imitators, there to sell and be sold.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on most of those points, Adam and Chris. The thing about Lady Gaga, though, is that her music (specifically on the Fame Monster)  isn't particularly amazing. Sure, it's infectious and makes for a heck of a dance party, but is it really something that is going to last or evolve past its own time? I'm not one to say if it will, but I know the quality of music from lasting pop artists like Justin Timberlake and Madonna and I know that it cannot compare.

I guess my biggest qualm with Gaga is just what you mentioned, Chris. She forces other artists to try and catch up with her by recycling her ideas (at least the ones that don't come off as random), thus sacrificing their own originality.

If Rihanna were to go back to the style she cultivated on "Music of the Sun," she would not sell as many CDs as she does now. But I think she'd be respected for doing what she does best. Same with Beyonce. She was still sultry and attractive back in her "Crazy in Love" days, but not sleazy and gaudy in her current "Videophone" era—a part of her career clearly back seat-driven at one point by Gaga herself.

Artists are clamoring to do the thing that makes money and that fuels what most of us regard as capitalism. And that's not always what pop has been. Hopefully someone will release something great in 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on most of those points, Adam and Chris. The thing about Lady Gaga, though, is that her music (specifically on the Fame Monster)  isn&#8217;t particularly amazing. Sure, it&#8217;s infectious and makes for a heck of a dance party, but is it really something that is going to last or evolve past its own time? I&#8217;m not one to say if it will, but I know the quality of music from lasting pop artists like Justin Timberlake and Madonna and I know that it cannot compare.</p>
<p>I guess my biggest qualm with Gaga is just what you mentioned, Chris. She forces other artists to try and catch up with her by recycling her ideas (at least the ones that don&#8217;t come off as random), thus sacrificing their own originality.</p>
<p>If Rihanna were to go back to the style she cultivated on &#8220;Music of the Sun,&#8221; she would not sell as many CDs as she does now. But I think she&#8217;d be respected for doing what she does best. Same with Beyonce. She was still sultry and attractive back in her &#8220;Crazy in Love&#8221; days, but not sleazy and gaudy in her current &#8220;Videophone&#8221; era—a part of her career clearly back seat-driven at one point by Gaga herself.</p>
<p>Artists are clamoring to do the thing that makes money and that fuels what most of us regard as capitalism. And that&#8217;s not always what pop has been. Hopefully someone will release something great in 2010!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Adam on Lady Gaga. Her innovative, performance-style approach to pop music (with hints of underlying themes and meaning in some of her most popular songs) certainly makes her a unique star in comparison to her pop music counterparts (I'm not even counting the outrageous outfits!).

However, pop music in general may not seem like an "original" genre because it's just that - the popular music. Pop it's necessarily reinventing itself or losing some initial quality we've since forgotten. It's a style of music that fits well in a Capitalist economy and manages to make millions off of similar vibes, beats, themes, and styles that the general American consumer will buy and enjoy.

That being said, pop still provides different, new artists from time to time (again, Gaga), and of course, within pop music we may be able to interpret particular ideas, cultural values or social and political commentaries, but that doesn't mean pop music is going to always seem variably new each year, nor does it mean pop has only recently become a genre that often favors recycled musical concepts if they prove successful in the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Adam on Lady Gaga. Her innovative, performance-style approach to pop music (with hints of underlying themes and meaning in some of her most popular songs) certainly makes her a unique star in comparison to her pop music counterparts (I&#8217;m not even counting the outrageous outfits!).</p>
<p>However, pop music in general may not seem like an &#8220;original&#8221; genre because it&#8217;s just that - the popular music. Pop it&#8217;s necessarily reinventing itself or losing some initial quality we&#8217;ve since forgotten. It&#8217;s a style of music that fits well in a Capitalist economy and manages to make millions off of similar vibes, beats, themes, and styles that the general American consumer will buy and enjoy.</p>
<p>That being said, pop still provides different, new artists from time to time (again, Gaga), and of course, within pop music we may be able to interpret particular ideas, cultural values or social and political commentaries, but that doesn&#8217;t mean pop music is going to always seem variably new each year, nor does it mean pop has only recently become a genre that often favors recycled musical concepts if they prove successful in the market.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happened to Pop Music? by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that GaGa's sound is nothing new. While I was never a fan during the "Poker Face"/"Just Dance" craze, her new 8-track album is genius, and it's very, very fresh. "Bad Romance" is one of the most original pop songs to hit the radio in a long time (although the second single off of the album, "Telephone," is trash). Ke$ha, some Glambert, and the "new" Rihanna, I'll agree, are trying to ride the coattails of GaGa's success, but that's nothing new; in the lifetime of kids my age, we've seen the Teen Pop Princess period, the Boy Band era and the punk rock rebel age (when Fall Out Boy and Panic hit the big time). Pop music continually reinvents itself...we just happen to live in the age of GaGa and her wannabes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that GaGa&#8217;s sound is nothing new. While I was never a fan during the &#8220;Poker Face&#8221;/&#8221;Just Dance&#8221; craze, her new 8-track album is genius, and it&#8217;s very, very fresh. &#8220;Bad Romance&#8221; is one of the most original pop songs to hit the radio in a long time (although the second single off of the album, &#8220;Telephone,&#8221; is trash). Ke$ha, some Glambert, and the &#8220;new&#8221; Rihanna, I&#8217;ll agree, are trying to ride the coattails of GaGa&#8217;s success, but that&#8217;s nothing new; in the lifetime of kids my age, we&#8217;ve seen the Teen Pop Princess period, the Boy Band era and the punk rock rebel age (when Fall Out Boy and Panic hit the big time). Pop music continually reinvents itself&#8230;we just happen to live in the age of GaGa and her wannabes.</p>
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